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Friday, November 27, 2015
Mike Trout 2011 Bowman Draft RC
Photos: from my own collection
Here's a Mike Trout Bowman Draft rookie card.
This is not to be confused with the 2011 Mike Trout Bowman Chrome rookie card, or the 2011 Mike Trout Bowman Chrome Draft rookie card. Both cards with "draft" in the name are #101, while the Chrome is #175. Go figure. What I can tell you is that when I went to bid on these, and the many dozens of other options that showed up, I had to look at my Beckett Graded book to see which one was which time and time again, since the three different cards also have different values. I had to stop a few times and adjust my eyes, and it doesn't help that the listings on Ebay are often misleading or flat-out incorrect. The sellers didn't seem to know what they were selling, at times, since some said they were selling a Bowman Chrome when they were actually selling a Bowman Chrome Draft. There were many other misleading tags as well. Crazy. And, oh yeah, there are tons of bunched-together listings in the Beckett book, and they tended to blur together after awhile, too.
I also had to look at the established Mike Trout rookie cards from cardboardconnection.com, which lists the actual rookie cards of every important player. This is now necessary, since there are so many cards that say "rookie" or "RC" on them, but they're not actual rookies, they just got released in the player's rookie year. That makes it a rookie, right? No, because there are so many subsets from the same card company that not each of them are considered rookies. Plus, there are a lot of "prospect" cards, which used to mean rookie, but now doesn't. And some players have a rookie card even before their rookie year or their prospect card--see: Mark McGwire's Olympics card, which is his rookie.
For those who're wondering, Mike Trout's only rookie cards are: 2011 Bowman Chrome #175; 2011 Bowman Chrome Draft #101; 2011 Bowman Draft #101; 2011 Bowman Sterling #22 (Good luck! That one's BV is $150 for a NmMt 8 and $500 for a Gem 9.5 / 10); 2011 Finest Baseball #94 and 2011 Topps Update #US175. (See how the Chrome and Topps is #175? That's because Topps owns Bowman, but all the Bowman Draft sets and subsets are #101.) That's a lot to see, and blur through, while you're sorting out listings by condition, cost, reputation and listing accuracy--the last of which was terrible!
And thank you to Cardboard Connection for providing those separate rookie and prospect listings.
By the way, did you know that prospect cards are released before the rookie cards, so you'll see them before you see the rookie cards, which used to be the ones you'd see first? And some prospect cards are traded and bought like they're rookies, and are often worth much more than the rookie cards!
Anyway, as I mentioned in the previous Bryce Harper entry, I don't usually buy recent rookie cards. Bryce Harper is an exception worth taking a chance on. Mike Trout is an exception you have to take a chance on. Trout is a no-brainer, like Pujols was, but more so, because Pujols was so obvious, and so alone in the field of new players at the time, that he didn't even have to be awesome to be the one to buy at that time.
Mike Trout is different because he is shoulders above some very impressive newer players in the past few years. Bryce Harper also stands out almost as much. But there's also Paul Goldschmidt, the most underrated player in baseball, who's finished second in the MVP voting the past two straight years, and who noticed? Very quiet player who plays for a very bad team; had he played for the Yankees, we'd be talking about him like we do Trout and Harper. (I've been trying to get a Goldschmidt rookie, too, though I have far surpassed my holiday spending. But a Mint Condition Goldschmidt Topps Update RC is only $10--and that's Buy It Now, not even bidding. (Bids tend to be a few bucks cheaper.) Anyway, I feel Goldschmidt is a sleeper, and I'm going to get his rookie now while it's cheap. I just did the same with Jose Altuve's, which is just plain cheap; I got 7 Altuve Bowman RCs for $7, including shipping. Ungraded, sure, but I gave to a friend the one with a few corner dings, and I'll send the best of the others to get graded and take my chances.
And we haven't talked about Rizzo, or Correa, or Arrieta, or any of the other ones. These last 3-4 years have been amongst the best three to four year stretch for rookies since the early 90s.
Anyway, Mike Trout stands way above all of these guys, and the collectors seem to know it, since his ungraded Bowman cards sell for about $20 when bidding, and over $30 for Buy It Now. Lots of buyers are Buying It Now, too, which tells me they're in very high demand, since experienced Ebay shoppers would rather spend $10 more just to know they can get one.
I spent $19.38 for the one pictured above, and that includes shipping.
So I'm taking a chance, because once I send it away, it has to be graded an 8 or better for me to break even. In fact, an 8 is just $20 BV, so I'll lose out a little bit because I have to pay for it to be graded (I wait for the $5 or $7 specials from SGC) and I have to pay about a buck combined for shipping and insurance. (I send 10 cards at a time to SGC, because it costs the same to ship and insure 1 card as it does 10 cards, so you may as well do 10.)
Since I'm spending another $7 to $9 or so on the grading, shipping and insuring, I need this card to get graded at least an NmMt+ 8.5, worth $25, in order to break even. I have no idea whether this card is that or not, as I have long ago decided that I'm not going to drive myself crazy predicting a grading company's grade for a card, since I have conclusive evidence that they're often wildly off their own grading scale, and so it's basically a crapshoot. This is especially true of newer cards. (I've been very good at grading T206s--but the grading companies have been much more consistent with their grades for those, too.) Even cards from the mid-80s have been graded one or two grades different than I'd predicted. Why's my 1980 Rickey Henderson RC an 8 rather than a 9--which is a difference of about $275 in Ebay bidding value? Couldn't tell you. What's the difference between my Rickey 8 and the previous Rickey 7 it just replaced? I don't know. The corners and the gloss and the centering are the same.
Will this one break even? I don't know, but here's why it's worth the chance for me, and also why I bought a 2011 Mike Trout Bowman Chrome RC and a 2011 Mike Trout Bowman Chrome Draft RC:
--Trout's RC values have increased lately and, I believe, will continue to do so. For a long time.
--My Trout Chrome RC is a 9 and the Chrome Draft RC is a 9.5, so I've got my Mint condition Mike Trout rookie card situation covered. (Those deals will be blogged about when they come in.)
--If this one is a dud--say, a 6 or 7--I can give it as a gift to either a relative or a friend of mine. Neither takes this anywhere near as seriously as I do, and would love to have a Trout rookie of any grade.
--Worst possible scenario: I can sell it at the occasional yard sale I have every other summer, and I can get $20 to $25 for it, no problem, especially from older folks who love baseball but hate the internet. And there's lots of those!
And that's why I bought an ungraded Mike Trout rookie, and would do so again, for either the relative or the friend who doesn't get this one.
Sorry for the long entry!
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Tuesday, November 24, 2015
Bryce Harper 2012 Bowman Platinum
Photo: from my collection, scanned in.
So, this is Bryce Harper's 2012 Bowman Platinum rookie card, graded in PSA 9 Mint condition. I got it for $8.51, plus $1.18 shipping, for a total of $9.69. (This was in a package of 3 other cards from the same Ebay company. I may write about those cards another time.) The book value of this card from the Beckett Graded Card Price Guide is $25. The Ebay selling price lately for this is about $20 to $25. I got a Mint condition card for even less than half of what I can re-sell it for, which is always what I try to do. I always buy with an eye to re-sell, if necessary in the future, so I always buy for about half the book value, and for about 75% of the recent Ebay value. I made out well here.
I normally don't buy baseball cards of recent rookies or of recent new stars because their values can fluctuate wildly over a very short time. If you take a look at the values of autographed rookie cards, or of prospect cards of the hottest new player, they've often cost hundreds--and thousands!--of dollars, and for what? For the player to crash and burn, and now his cards are worthless, and all that money is down the drain.
Crazy.
However, Bryce Harper, and--even more so--Mike Trout are rare exceptions. Trout's Bowman rookie cards are worth hundreds of dollars or more in Mint or Gem condition. (I just got a Mint at about $50 and a couple of ungraded ones I'll take a chance on at $20 apiece. If the ungraded ones get graded and turn out really low, I can give them away as gifts to guys I know who'd be thrilled to have them.) I may run an entry about my Mike Trout cards soon.
So why Bryce Harper? Well, he won the ROY Award a few years ago, and just won the MVP. Last year he hit .330. He slugged .649 with over a 1.100 OPS. He hit over 40 homers (with just 99 RBIs, but he's not to blame if nobody's on in front of him) and walked 124 times for a ridiculous .460 on-base percentage.
He has rubbed a few the wrong way, and certainly he had his cocky and immature moments--but remember a guy who was so cocksure and immature he was called The Kid? I'm not saying Bryce Harper will even come close to Ted Williams, of course, but he has the tools--if he can stay healthy, mature and not party too much--to hang around a long time and to put up potential HOF numbers.
That's what I'm counting on. Mike Trout has a better chance to do so, and I'll write about him next.
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