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Wednesday, November 15, 2017
Ken Griffey Jr. 1989 Mother's Cookies RC #4 in PSA Gem Mint 10
Photo: Ken Griffey, Jr. 1989 Mother's Cookies #4 in PSA Gem Mint 10
Not too much to say about this one, except that it's a great picture, and is one of four cards of Griffey produced by Mother's Cookies in 1989. I've got this one, #4, and his #3 will be here shortly. Still on the lookout for a decently-priced 1 and 2. This one is supposedly the hardest to get and of the greatest value of the four. I got it for $30.75, including shipping, and PSA currently values it at $45, for a profit of $14.25---not too bad for a recent card. I've got #s 1 and 2 on my radar, but I'm waiting for their prices to come down. These are a bit more rare, so they won't be up for bid on eBay regularly.
Tuesday, December 6, 2016
Chris Sale to Boston for Yoan Moncada, Kopech and Two Others; 2 Other Deals
Photos: The front of my Chris Sale autographed 2010 Bowman Sterling Prospect Autographs card (It's got an 8 surface because the autograph is on a thin, transparent sticker that's put on the card). The back of the card shows that Beckett graded the autograph a 10, which is perfect. So a 9 card and a 10 autograph. Not bad.
Read about the Red Sox / White Sox trade at this link if you're not inundated with it already.
In a nutshell (which some are saying Sale is, especially after he ripped up some White Sox throwback uniforms last year), this is a trade for a power lefty with the best ERA in the American League over the past five years. Visit his baseball-reference.com page here.
Here's why the Sox are excited to have Sale:
--All-time: #3 in K / 9, 2nd in Ks per walk and #10 in WHIP, all awesome control and power stats.
--He's only 27.
--He's team-controlled until the end of 2019. The last 2 years are team option years, for $12.5 million and $13.5 million each year. That's really cheap considering his ability. (Consider that Pablo Sandoval got paid $17 million last year not to play at all.)
--He supplants Price as the ace and now gives Boston perhaps the best 1-2-3 punch in baseball, with Sale, Price and (2016 Cy Young Award Winner) Porcello starting the first three games of any postseason series.
--He averages over 200 innings a year and has finished 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th in Cy Young voting in the past five years. Also a 5-time All-Star, each of the past five years.
--He's led the league in complete games, Ks, and Ks per nine innings in the past few years.
--He's also led the league in hit batsmen the past few years. Why's that a good thing? Because it proves he pitches inside, and he pitches angry. (Remind you of anyone? Answer below.) That's good, because with half his starts at Fenway, and the Green Monster just 310 feet away, he has to pitch inside. He already does.
--You'd rather have a great thing, which Sale is, than 4 possibly great things. Think: Rose and Pavano for Pedro. (Another guy who pitched angry and inside, and hit a few batters. But he's in the HOF now.)
--The blue chip in the trade was Moncada, who the Sox spent $80+ million on, including a fine for signing a foreign player for so much money. Then he went 0-9 with 9 whiffs, looked terrible doing it, and seemed lost in the field. I saw him play a game in Portland last summer: he whiffed 5 out of 5 times, and looked terrible there, in Double-A. I also heard today that the Cuban League, where he (and Puig) excelled, don't test for PEDs, and that everyone comes out of there looking like King Kong. Then those guys (again, like Puig) come to the majors, and they're overmatched. He could be the next Robinson Cano ("Don'tcha know"), but I'm betting against it.
--The rotation now looks like this: Sale, Price, Porcello, Eduardo Rodriguez (who has shown flashes of excellence--and boorishness), and Drew Pomeranz, who with some rest may be the guy they hoped they were getting. (And thanks, Hayes, for reminding me of his existence this afternoon. An unforgivable mental blip.) If he falters, Clay Buchholz and / or Steven Wright will step in. Wright showed brilliance last year before he was injured (perhaps permanently) and Buchholz may be the only #5 guy in the league who has pitched a no-hitter and won 17 games, twice. Perhaps the best starting rotation in the majors, on paper. And Buchholz did well in relief last year, too.
Here's why it's a slight cause for concern:
--Sale's the guy who ripped up the very, very ugly White Sox throwback uniforms last year. Literally, he took scissors to all of the uniforms in the clubhouse, costing his team thousands and earning him a team suspension. Not to mention the ire of the organization. So he comes with ace stuff, but also a bit of an attitude. But wasn't that said about Pedro as well?
--Though he'll be just 28 in March, at the start of Spring Training, I'm a little concerned about all the innings he's pitched. He throws 95-98, for 200 innings a year the past 5-7 years. That may add up. Then again, Price has pitched more innings, and after a poor start, he finished very well. Plus, there are guys like Ryan, Clemens, Johnson, etc. who had no problem. We'll see.
--Moncada might be the real deal. Maybe not. But Kopech could also be the real deal, as he also throws 100+ MPH and has three plus pitches. Diaz, the forgotten man, also throws 100 and has a great upside. I'm not as familiar with Basabe, but it is very possible that the first 3 guys will become All-Stars, Kopech as a starter and Diaz as a closer. I'm betting they'll make it further than Moncada. And, again, I'll take a definite over four maybees, even three very high-ceiling, scary maybees.
But neither Pavano nor Rose turned out to be Pedro Martinez, right? Not even combined.
P.S.--In case you missed it, Mitch Moreland (think Napoli, but weaker on offense and Gold Glove on defense) just signed with Boston, pending a physical. This puts Hanley Ramirez at DH, and he's a good option at 1st during interleague play.
P.P.S.--And Travis Shaw and a few prospects you've never heard of are going to Milwaukee for Tyler Thornburg, a proven 8th-inning power set-up guy with closing experience. If Carson Smith is healthy, the Sox may have the best 7th, 8th and 9th guys in baseball--and a safety net if they tire of Kimbrel's act, as I already have.
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Tuesday, April 5, 2016
Red Sox 2016 Opening Day 4.5.16
Photo: from ESPN.go.com. This could've been Price about to pitch during today's game, but it wasn't. Game time temperature was 34 degrees in Cleveland.
The game worked exactly as the Sox would've drawn up: the starting pitcher goes 6 or 7 innings, then you finish up with an inning each from your best relievers--Tazawa, Uehara and Kimbrel. That's what happened in this 6-2 win.
With a little bit of help from a truly terrible day behind the plate from John Hirschbeck, who had a strike zone that extended a good couple of inches (or about a foot for Napoli and Bogaerts) to the outside, the Sox best pitchers--the three relievers and David Price, their $30+ million per year ace--pitched well and made this look easy.
A few notes:
--the Sox were patient with Corey Kluber, who walked more batters and who gave up more hits than usual. He allowed 9 hits and 2 walks in 5 1/3 innings, and went to a lot of three-ball counts. He threw 96 pitches in just 5 1/3 innings.
--Price gave up 5 hits and 2 walks in his 6 innings, and struck out 10. He had great pace out there, and was helped out considerably by the wider strike zone. He saw that the pitch 2 inches on the outside of the zone was going to be a strike, and he kept throwing it to that exact spot.
--Napoli, especially in his last at-bat, was a victim of this. He had very good at-bats, especially the first K and his walk, and he deserved better. It was good to see him take pitches and field well, as usual. He can still play, even if not over the course of a full season. And nice sunglasses!
--Bogaerts, Betts and Bradley had very good at-bats. Shaw did, too, even though he struck out three times. Actually, twice, because that last strike three was in another time zone. The young core did well.
--Shaw's K came with the bases loaded, and that could have been haunting had things turned out differently. But they didn't.
--My guess is that Swihart missed a sign, but Bradley could have, too. But Swihart wasn't running on his own with just a two-run lead at the time.
--The next time Hanley Ramirez stands and admires one of his shots, like David Ortiz did after his last Opening Day homerun, it had better go out. His single that should have been a double should earn him a fine from the team. And not by a kangaroo court.
--Having said that, it was good to see him playing with fire, though it's a good thing that throw to third was off-line. Had he been out, as he should have been, I wouldn't be as forgiving. But it was good to see that intensity, and again when he clapped as he scored after Holt's bloop fell in. We didn't see him playing with that fire last year.
--Kudos also to him for coming to camp in much better shape, and with a much better attitude, than Sandroval did. They are noticeable opposites this year, though they were very similar last year.
--And, in all honesty, he's been better at first than I thought he'd be.
--I don't like the LOB column on NESN's graphic this year. Looks bad. I know some channels have had that for awhile now, but that's new to NESN. Needs to go.
--Let's not get carried away. Last year's Opening Day: a shutout for Buchholz, and Pedroia hit two home runs. And look how that turned out.
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Tuesday, November 24, 2015
Bryce Harper 2012 Bowman Platinum
Photo: from my collection, scanned in.
So, this is Bryce Harper's 2012 Bowman Platinum rookie card, graded in PSA 9 Mint condition. I got it for $8.51, plus $1.18 shipping, for a total of $9.69. (This was in a package of 3 other cards from the same Ebay company. I may write about those cards another time.) The book value of this card from the Beckett Graded Card Price Guide is $25. The Ebay selling price lately for this is about $20 to $25. I got a Mint condition card for even less than half of what I can re-sell it for, which is always what I try to do. I always buy with an eye to re-sell, if necessary in the future, so I always buy for about half the book value, and for about 75% of the recent Ebay value. I made out well here.
I normally don't buy baseball cards of recent rookies or of recent new stars because their values can fluctuate wildly over a very short time. If you take a look at the values of autographed rookie cards, or of prospect cards of the hottest new player, they've often cost hundreds--and thousands!--of dollars, and for what? For the player to crash and burn, and now his cards are worthless, and all that money is down the drain.
Crazy.
However, Bryce Harper, and--even more so--Mike Trout are rare exceptions. Trout's Bowman rookie cards are worth hundreds of dollars or more in Mint or Gem condition. (I just got a Mint at about $50 and a couple of ungraded ones I'll take a chance on at $20 apiece. If the ungraded ones get graded and turn out really low, I can give them away as gifts to guys I know who'd be thrilled to have them.) I may run an entry about my Mike Trout cards soon.
So why Bryce Harper? Well, he won the ROY Award a few years ago, and just won the MVP. Last year he hit .330. He slugged .649 with over a 1.100 OPS. He hit over 40 homers (with just 99 RBIs, but he's not to blame if nobody's on in front of him) and walked 124 times for a ridiculous .460 on-base percentage.
He has rubbed a few the wrong way, and certainly he had his cocky and immature moments--but remember a guy who was so cocksure and immature he was called The Kid? I'm not saying Bryce Harper will even come close to Ted Williams, of course, but he has the tools--if he can stay healthy, mature and not party too much--to hang around a long time and to put up potential HOF numbers.
That's what I'm counting on. Mike Trout has a better chance to do so, and I'll write about him next.
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Tuesday, July 21, 2015
1909 T206 HOF George Davis
The Card
Photo: T206 George Davis, front and back.
For those interested, I bought this card for $36.33, including shipping. T206.org says it's been selling recently at about $43, which is a very common value for a Hall of Fame T206 of a nondescript player in Poor condition. (Poor condition T206s of the big boys--Cobb, Young, Walter Johnson, etc.--still run a couple hundred bucks.) Anyway, that's a profit of $6.67. Not much. The Beckett Graded Card Price Guide (7th Ed. 2015) says it's been selling at about $50, which is a little high, on Ebay, anyway. That's a value of $13.67, which is a little better.
I'm just happy to have a T206 HOFer. I have about 15 of those now, most of them in Poor or Good condition, because that's what I can afford, ya know? This card is in good condition, for a Poor.
The Player / The Person
Photo: George Davis, while with the Chicago White Sox, from The Sporting News
Shockingly, the Veterans' Committee got it right when they inducted this guy into the Hall. Normally the Committee's inductions are abysmal, especially players inducted from this era. I've looked at a few of those lately, and when I checked Davis's card in my collection and I looked at his stats (via baseball-reference.com, just click it here to see), I was expecting more of the same.
But I was pleasantly surprised. You may have to know a bit about the time to appreciate Davis's stats. At a glance, they're not impressive. He led the league in an offensive category exactly once: 135 RBIs in 1897 for the New York Giants. (McGraw and Mathewson wouldn't join the Giants until later.) This is a lot, but for the 1890s, pretty common for a league leader. What impressed me a lot more was that between 1904 and 1908, the Chicago White Sox let him play full-time, in most of the team's games, although his offensive stats were way below the league's norms.
There's only one reason possible for this: Defense. From 1890 through 1902, Davis's offensive stats are good, but not great. They are, though, impressively consistent. And consistency in 1890s baseball, for 12 years, is very rare, whether it's offense or defense. The stats will pile up, as they did. So for peak value, Davis was not one of the best players in the league. But in career value, he was.
And then came 1904-1908 with the White Sox, and those rather unimpressive numbers. True, the game changed a little, but those are still bad stats. Why would he still be allowed to play full-time? Could his defense have been that good?
Yes. Turns out, it was.
His overall WAR (wins above replacement; click on the stat on the webpage if you're unfamiliar with it) was higher in 1904, 1905 and 1906 than it had been in any of his more impressive offensive years. This can only be due to his defense. Any dWAR (defensive wins above replacement) in the positive is good. (This happens a shockingly low amount of times, even for good players today.) Anything above 1 is really good; anything above 2 is Gold Glove worthy. Davis was a very good defensive player during his good offensive years (consistently between 1 and 2), but when his offensive skills eroded after 1903, when he sat out, due to problems with injury, salary, and constantly jumping between the Giants and the White Sox, and back (jumping teams was VERY common in the early 1900s, but his case was still odd. Read about it at his Wikipedia page here), he must've realized that if he was going to still play, his defense had to get even better.
And for a few years, it did. His defensive WAR, from 1904-1908, when his offense was terrible: 3.4; 2.8; 3.0; 2.9; 1.3. With his average to below-average offense, but his incredible GG (before there was a Gold Glove Award) defense, his overall WAR from 1904-1908: 7.2; 7.2; 6.3; 4.6 and 2.1. A 5+ is all-star worthy, and his defense alone made him 2 levels above that.
Over his 16-year career, the league averaged a .919 fielding percentage for the positions he played. Davis's fielding percentage was .936. At shortstop, the league's was .923 and his was .940.
If you're defending 17 percentage points higher than everyone else in the league, that's HOF exceptional. Combine that with 1,545 runs scored (56th all-time), 2,665 hits (69th all-time), 453 doubles (100th all-time), 163 triples (33rd all-time), 619 stolen bases (17th all-time), and 1,440 RBIs (63rd all-time), and you're a Hall-of-Fame player. JAWS says he's the 4th-best shortstop of all-time, and that's going head-to-head with Honus Wagner (#1), A-rod (#2) Cal Ripken (#3), Robin Yount (#5), Arky Vaughn (#6), Ernie Banks (#7) and Ozzie Smith (#8). Derek Jeter, if you're curious, is #12, ahead of Barry Larkin, Lou Boudreau, Pee Wee Reese and Bobby Wallace (a contemporary of George Davis's)--but behind Alan Trammel (#11)! [Take a look at Trammel's stats here and you'll be as amazed as I was. I assure you, nobody--including the announcers and players who were around him--realized he was that good. Alan Trammel, shockingly, is wildly deserving of the Hall of Fame. But that's another blog entry for another time.)] All of these guys, by the way, were way above the average HOF shortstop's stats. Normally shortstops can field, or they can hit, but they can't do both.
So why a blog entry about George Davis, who nobody in this generation (and in this century) has ever heard of?
Because he wasn't inducted into the HOF until 1998, and he died in 1940. It came 58 years too late, but finally someone dusted off his stats and saw the HOF.
Well, it started with Bill James, as these sabermetric things often do. I'll let the Wikipedia page tell it:
In a 1995 book, baseball author Bill James referred to Davis as baseball's best player who had not been inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame.[7]Also in 1995, Davis was featured in David Pietrusza's television film "Local Heroes" in the segment "Knocking on Cooperstown's Door."
In 1997, baseball researcher Frederick Ivor-Campbell said that Davis was "the most neglected player of the 19th century. He's definitely the best eligible player not in the Hall, and he's a lot better than a lot of guys already in."[8] Around the same time, Davis was rated the 21st best baseball player of all time in the official baseball encyclopedia, Total Baseball.[8]
Davis was up for a vote before the Hall of Fame's Veterans Committee in 1998. Before the committee voted, sportswriter Dave Anderson wrote an article in The New York Times on Davis's Hall of Fame candidacy. He pointed out the work of Cohoes city historian Walt Lipka, which favorably compared Davis to almost all of the shortstops in the Hall of Fame. Anderson supported Davis's election, saying, "It's as if he were discarded nearly a century ago into a time capsule that was forgotten until now... For too long, George Stacey Davis has been his era's most forgotten best player."[9] He was selected for induction that year.[4]
Prior to his Hall of Fame induction, a Society for American Baseball Research (SABR) chapter in New York put out a call to locate a descendant of Davis to be present at the induction ceremony and announced plans for a historical marker in Cohoes.[10] As a great deal of time had passed since his death, no relatives could be located, but a group of about 50 people from Cohoes traveled to the ceremony in support of Davis.[1]
Me again. I don't know if George Davis was the 21st best player of all-time, but he certainly belongs in the Hall. He was light years better than Phil Rizzuto, Joe Tinker, Rabbit Maranville, and lots of other marginal candidates who probably shouldn't be in the Hall, but who are. Davis got in so late that nobody was around to even honor his plaque.
And why was that? Well, that's not so Hall-of-Fame worthy, but hey, don't judge:
Davis returned to the minor leagues for one season as player-manager of the 1910 Des Moines Boosters.[6] He managed a bowling alley in the early 1910s. He was the Amherst College baseball coach from 1913 to 1918, then he became a car salesman.[3]
The circumstances of his death remained a mystery until baseball historian Lee Allen discovered its details through a campaign to track down historical baseball players, run in part in The Sporting News. Davis was admitted to a Philadelphia mental institution in 1934 suffering from paresis due to tertiary syphilis. He died in the institution in 1940.[3] Davis was survived by his wife Jane, who was said to have been angry at him when he died. They had no children. His wife spent $41 to have him buried within a day at nearby Fernwood Cemetery.
Me again. Yeah, so no kids to have kids to honor his HOF plaque 58 years after he died of syphilis. Of course, you can get syphilis many ways, then and now, but...well, his wife was really pissed at him, and buried him the day after he died, apparently sans wake and funeral. And it was a quickie burial, costing just $41, which sounds to me like someone dug a hole in the cemetery, threw him in, and filled up the hole. Maybe even without a coffin, and definitely without a chaplain or onlookers.
And that pretty much says it all.
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Monday, December 8, 2014
The Dolly Stark Situation
Photo: The Dolly Stark Southern League T206 card, from BMWcards.com. This is not the exact card in the story below. BMWcards, by the way, is a company that sells really high-end, really high-quality, great-conditioned and highly-graded cards. In other words, I can look, but I can't buy.
I almost bid on a Dolly Stark, which is a tougher-to-find Southern League card, and worth more than other commons in the set. I can't tell you how many times I've bid on a Dolly Stark card. So often, it's become a bit of a thing with me. I have to get one--but not go crazy to do so. This one was an SGC 30 2, which means it was graded by SGC, and graded a 30, which is SGC's way of saying it's in Good condition. A 2 also means Good condition. Good, in this case, is an actual grade, not just someone saying it's in good condition, if you know what I mean. I'm a bit stingy, because I'm a bit poor, so buying a T206 in Good condition is okay with me. It's not for most serious collectors.
So I looked it up in what I call The Book--Beckett's Graded Card Price Guide. It says that this exact card, in this exact condition, has recently sold for, on average, $80. (This is not the same as saying it's "worth" $80, but it's as close to an immediate, go-with-it value you can get on short, convenient notice.) When I saw it, the bid was $27.
(Side note: Do not ever buy an item like a baseball card as a BUY NOW on Ebay, because if there's something wrong with the item--and there usually will be, or it wouldn't be BUY NOW, it'd be auctioned--Ebay will not reimburse you, and neither will the seller. Only static items, like baseball card plastic sleeves, for example, or anything else you'd buy off a shelf or a rack, should ever be bought as a Buy It Now.)
Anyway, I knew the bid would go up, but I hoped not by much, and a common card usually won't escalate tremendously. I had my bid all set after there was less than one minute to go. (I place my bid when there's a specific number of seconds left; not tellin' ya what that is.) My bid was for $41.51, because the shipping was $3.50, and I didn't want to spend more than $45 total, even though the value was $80. I try not to pay more than half what a card is worth, including shipping. But as this Dolly Stark situation has become personal at this point, I splurged by a few bucks. With 5 seconds left, the bids went from $27 to over $30 to over $40, etc., finally settling on $63.00. That's not bad, spending $66.50 total for a card "valued" at $80--a savings of $13.50, but that was more than I wanted to spend on one T206 card, even though it was a Southern Leaguer (which are more rare and more expensive) and a personal situation, too. There were other cards I was looking at, and I needed to save my money.
Plus, once you've settled on a dollar amount you're willing to spend, you absolutely cannot go over that amount. If you do, you will again, and suddenly you've gone Ebay crazy and spent your mortgage. Craziness. So I never sent my bid for this card. The Dolly Stark situation still remains a personal thing.
I almost bid on a Dolly Stark, which is a tougher-to-find Southern League card, and worth more than other commons in the set. I can't tell you how many times I've bid on a Dolly Stark card. So often, it's become a bit of a thing with me. I have to get one--but not go crazy to do so. This one was an SGC 30 2, which means it was graded by SGC, and graded a 30, which is SGC's way of saying it's in Good condition. A 2 also means Good condition. Good, in this case, is an actual grade, not just someone saying it's in good condition, if you know what I mean. I'm a bit stingy, because I'm a bit poor, so buying a T206 in Good condition is okay with me. It's not for most serious collectors.
So I looked it up in what I call The Book--Beckett's Graded Card Price Guide. It says that this exact card, in this exact condition, has recently sold for, on average, $80. (This is not the same as saying it's "worth" $80, but it's as close to an immediate, go-with-it value you can get on short, convenient notice.) When I saw it, the bid was $27.
(Side note: Do not ever buy an item like a baseball card as a BUY NOW on Ebay, because if there's something wrong with the item--and there usually will be, or it wouldn't be BUY NOW, it'd be auctioned--Ebay will not reimburse you, and neither will the seller. Only static items, like baseball card plastic sleeves, for example, or anything else you'd buy off a shelf or a rack, should ever be bought as a Buy It Now.)
Anyway, I knew the bid would go up, but I hoped not by much, and a common card usually won't escalate tremendously. I had my bid all set after there was less than one minute to go. (I place my bid when there's a specific number of seconds left; not tellin' ya what that is.) My bid was for $41.51, because the shipping was $3.50, and I didn't want to spend more than $45 total, even though the value was $80. I try not to pay more than half what a card is worth, including shipping. But as this Dolly Stark situation has become personal at this point, I splurged by a few bucks. With 5 seconds left, the bids went from $27 to over $30 to over $40, etc., finally settling on $63.00. That's not bad, spending $66.50 total for a card "valued" at $80--a savings of $13.50, but that was more than I wanted to spend on one T206 card, even though it was a Southern Leaguer (which are more rare and more expensive) and a personal situation, too. There were other cards I was looking at, and I needed to save my money.
Plus, once you've settled on a dollar amount you're willing to spend, you absolutely cannot go over that amount. If you do, you will again, and suddenly you've gone Ebay crazy and spent your mortgage. Craziness. So I never sent my bid for this card. The Dolly Stark situation still remains a personal thing.
Tuesday, December 2, 2014
The Sherry Magie Error T206 Card Sold on Ebay
Photo: The one you see here is valued at $90,000. Yes. 90 grand. Or, half the value of a good house. The super-famous Magie (Magee) error card, from PSA.com. The card in this picture is not the same exact one in the story below.
I just watched a Sherry Magie (correct spelling: Magee) error card from the T206 set--one of the most sought-after, rare and expensive cards in the hobby--sell on Ebay. Just watching, mind you. Why? Because it was in PSA 3 VG condition, which means the grading company PSA said it was in Very Good condition, which is an actual grade, and not somebody saying, "Hey, that's in very good condition." The 3 means that this is the 3rd-lowest grade for a card, which is good if you're a serious, but financially limited, collector like me. (Most serious T206 collectors are not financially limited.) So I'm thrilled to get a card in VG condition, but most serious collectors prefer cards at least a good three stages higher, at least Excellent or Excellent-Mint condition. If I had the money, I'd be the same. But I don't, so I'm not, and I'm okay with that.
Anyway, Beckett's Graded Card Price Guide says that this exact error card, in this exact graded condition, has sold recently, on average, for $20,000 (Yes, twenty grand for a baseball card of someone you've never heard of.) and that this dollar "value" has gone up since Beckett's last report. This is not the same as saying that the card is "worth" $20K, but for our purposes here we can think about it that way.
Suffice it to say, I don't (and most of you probably don't) have twenty grand to spend on a baseball card, so I'm just watching this take place. At about five minutes before the end of the auction, the highest visible bid (if you've bought off Ebay before, you know the highest visible bid is often nowhere near the highest actual bid) is at about $12,000. Now, this kind of famous card, an error card, a card that every serious T206 collector (including me) wants to have, will often go crazy in the last 10 seconds of bidding, so I'm fully expecting this thing to jump violently and quickly from $12K to $14K (seeing a baseball card jump in seconds by a few grand is a very rare thing to see), and so on, to come close to $20K or, as I expected, to exceed it.
To my utter shock--and, I'm sure, to the seller's worst nightmare--it doesn't. It sells for $14, 544. Someone out there just got one of the hobby's most sought-after cards at a savings of over $5,000. Well, $5,456, to be exact. Which means the seller, who should have expected the card to sell for something close, if not more than, $20,000, just took a hit of over five grand.
Meanwhile, I just saw a Burleigh Grimes 1933 Goudey, in PSA Good condition, with a book "value" of $50, just sell for $81.26, plus $3.50 shipping.
So some guy got a card at a savings of over $5,000--and he can very easily just re-list it himself sometime and sell it on some Friday or Saturday night, far away from Christmas time when people are buying presents and going broke, for the $20K, and make a nice $5,000 profit for himself by doing absolutely nothing. Well, besides using a little common sense. I would never auction off a super-valuable card around Christmastime. I'd wait until February, or March, when people are depressed and miserable and will overspend.
Anyway, so some guy underspent by five grand and got a world-class card, while someone else vastly overspent on the Grimes card by $33.76, which in its own way is just as shocking. Overspending by almost $34 on a card that's only worth $50 is an astoundingly financially unfeasible thing to do.
Ebay giveth and Ebay taketh away. That's the risk you run putting something up for bid. If you just get a sparse crowd, you're going to lose out, big-time. The company selling the Magie card was not one of the mega-name card companies I'm familiar with on Ebay. If it had been, with the established and serious client base those companies have, the card would've sold for closer to the $20K.
Craziness. But the company's fault for putting it up for bid when it did. Even if that's what the client asked the company to do (these guys often auction things for someone else, and get a cut of the sale price for doing so; that's called consignment), I can't believe the company wouldn't convince the card owner that he'll lose a few grand selling it now.
If I'd only had the money myself...
I also watched a 1933 Goudey Babe Ruth #181 PSA 6 EX-MT Condition, sell for $6,100. Shipping: $20. (This is the classic card where he's grimacing and looking over his shoulder, his arm on the red Big League Chewing Gum ad.) The book value: $5,000. I can't decide if someone overspent by over a grand, or if this is a worthwhile and legitimate value. A $1,100 profit on a $5K card is a pretty good haul. This Ruth Goudey card is also one of the hobby's most recognizable cards. Though not as much as the Napolean Lajoie (who's from RI) 1933 Goudey card. A Near-Mint one of those recently sold for $60,000. Yes, $60K for one baseball card. This company was one of the mega-names, which I think accounted for the profit made by the card. Sad, but true. Why the owner of the Magie error card didn't consign it through one of the mega-name companies is a mystery.
Monday, September 1, 2014
Free Contest to Win A T206--1,400 T206s for Auction at Saco River Auction Co. January 2015
[Free contest to win a free 1909-1911 T206 explained at the bottom of this entry, in the P.P.S. Contest ends midnight, Sept. 30, 2014.]
Yeah, that's right. If you're into baseball cards at all, you know the T206s. I've posted a few pics of the few I have. This is the set that has the Honus Wagner card, formerly owned by Wayne Gretzky and others, worth literally millions of dollars.
Well, in January 2015, the Saco River Auction House, in Biddeford, Maine, will auction off the Portland Trove of T206s. One thousand, four hundred of them. All in good condition, or better. All of them. At an average of $50 per card--a very low estimate, considering there are Christy Mathewson cards, Walter Johnsons, Ty Cobbs, etc.--that's still $70,000 worth of T206 baseball cards being sold. The real fetching price will most likely by ten times that, or more than $700,000.
To show you the awesomeness of this, look at the pics:
Can you believe that?!? Oh, my goodness. This makes me want to vomit in jealousy and greed, except I can't stop looking at the pics and wishing I had them.
Of course, since there are only 527 known cards in the set (though variations pop up even now, every so often), there are going to be some duplicates. My guess is--the piles you see on the tables in the pics are the duplicates of that card. So if a John Anderson, let's say, (in the second-to-last pic, he's in the second row from the bottom, all the way to the right; looks like he's praying) is on a small stack of three cards, I'm going to bet there are three John Andersons in the collection. (There's only one John Anderson in the set.) How did this happen? Simple: The story is that a gentleman living in NYC in 1909 or so started smoking. His choice of smoke was the El Principe de Gales--one of the rarest backs in the set! Anyway, he smoked the stuff and kept the card the pouch came with. And often, it'll come with a card he already had. Like getting a duplicate in the wax packs we bought as kids.
So, if you're not doing anything on a particular day TBA in January 2015, and if the weather isn't too bad, I might just take a drive up to 2 Main Street in Biddeford, Maine--about a three hour drive, or so. Hopefully the auction is on a Friday or Saturday night! I might save up a little bit by then, and take my list of cards. If you're into T206s, maybe I'll see you there. Save your pennies: All of the cards in this trove were graded by SGC, and they're all in good condition or better.
Speaking of card collections, do you have one? If so, what's your favorite? Or do you have a favorite specific card, or set? If you don't collect cards, what do you collect, and which of those is your favorite?
P.S.--Speaking of T206s, I've got a few extras, so I'll be having contests on this blog every now and then and giving one away for free. Caveat: None of the ones I'm giving away are professionally graded. They're known as "raw" cards, and they'd list in Poor, Poor / Fair, or Fair condition, but will still be worth at least ten bucks each, even in bad condition. (I mean, they're free, so waddaya want?) I'll mail it in a tobacco card toploader. Stay tuned.
P.P.S.--In fact, what the hell. I'll have a contest here and now. Just answer the question(s) above the P.S. in a comment to this blog entry and I'll enter you in a random drawing to win one of my extra T206s from 1909-1911. Each is worth somewhere between $10 to $25 and can be easily mailed to you. If you're the winner, I'll ask that you send me an email. When you do, I'll email you pics of the ones I've got available, and you can pick whatever one you want. I'll mail it to you free of charge as well. It can fit in a regular envelope, after all.
Yeah, that's right. If you're into baseball cards at all, you know the T206s. I've posted a few pics of the few I have. This is the set that has the Honus Wagner card, formerly owned by Wayne Gretzky and others, worth literally millions of dollars.
Well, in January 2015, the Saco River Auction House, in Biddeford, Maine, will auction off the Portland Trove of T206s. One thousand, four hundred of them. All in good condition, or better. All of them. At an average of $50 per card--a very low estimate, considering there are Christy Mathewson cards, Walter Johnsons, Ty Cobbs, etc.--that's still $70,000 worth of T206 baseball cards being sold. The real fetching price will most likely by ten times that, or more than $700,000.
To show you the awesomeness of this, look at the pics:
Can you believe that?!? Oh, my goodness. This makes me want to vomit in jealousy and greed, except I can't stop looking at the pics and wishing I had them.
Of course, since there are only 527 known cards in the set (though variations pop up even now, every so often), there are going to be some duplicates. My guess is--the piles you see on the tables in the pics are the duplicates of that card. So if a John Anderson, let's say, (in the second-to-last pic, he's in the second row from the bottom, all the way to the right; looks like he's praying) is on a small stack of three cards, I'm going to bet there are three John Andersons in the collection. (There's only one John Anderson in the set.) How did this happen? Simple: The story is that a gentleman living in NYC in 1909 or so started smoking. His choice of smoke was the El Principe de Gales--one of the rarest backs in the set! Anyway, he smoked the stuff and kept the card the pouch came with. And often, it'll come with a card he already had. Like getting a duplicate in the wax packs we bought as kids.
So, if you're not doing anything on a particular day TBA in January 2015, and if the weather isn't too bad, I might just take a drive up to 2 Main Street in Biddeford, Maine--about a three hour drive, or so. Hopefully the auction is on a Friday or Saturday night! I might save up a little bit by then, and take my list of cards. If you're into T206s, maybe I'll see you there. Save your pennies: All of the cards in this trove were graded by SGC, and they're all in good condition or better.
Speaking of card collections, do you have one? If so, what's your favorite? Or do you have a favorite specific card, or set? If you don't collect cards, what do you collect, and which of those is your favorite?
P.S.--Speaking of T206s, I've got a few extras, so I'll be having contests on this blog every now and then and giving one away for free. Caveat: None of the ones I'm giving away are professionally graded. They're known as "raw" cards, and they'd list in Poor, Poor / Fair, or Fair condition, but will still be worth at least ten bucks each, even in bad condition. (I mean, they're free, so waddaya want?) I'll mail it in a tobacco card toploader. Stay tuned.
P.P.S.--In fact, what the hell. I'll have a contest here and now. Just answer the question(s) above the P.S. in a comment to this blog entry and I'll enter you in a random drawing to win one of my extra T206s from 1909-1911. Each is worth somewhere between $10 to $25 and can be easily mailed to you. If you're the winner, I'll ask that you send me an email. When you do, I'll email you pics of the ones I've got available, and you can pick whatever one you want. I'll mail it to you free of charge as well. It can fit in a regular envelope, after all.
Sunday, October 6, 2013
Sox 2 Rays 0 2013 Division Series
A few things as we await the third game of the series. Comments about a game refer to the second one unless specified otherwise:
--Let's not celebrate yet. The third win is always the hardest, or so the players say. Five teams have won the first two Division Series games and not the series.
--Each of the three double plays ended an inning, and none was more important than Tazawa's. He's this bullpen's weakest link. Out of the really important pitchers, anyway.
--Breslow continues to amaze, but I still hope Buchholz goes into the eighth inning next time.
--It is not as easy as Uehara makes it look.
--Speaking of which: Uehara threw 11 pitches. All strikes.
--The most important stat of the night: Not Ortiz's two homers. Not Pedroia's three RBIs. It's Ellsbury's three hits and three runs scored. He is the oil that lubricates this offense and keeps it running smoothly. If he's not on base, and stealing bases, and creating errors, and taking the pitcher's mind off the other batters, then Pedroia doesn't drive in three because there's nobody to drive in. As Ellsbury goes, so does the offense.
--Speaking of which: I've not been an Ellsbury fan the last couple of years, since he exploded on the scene in 2007, because of his many injuries and days on the DL, and his fragility and reluctance to play unless he's 100%. (Which no ballplayer ever is.) But I'm a fan this year. The Sox need to resign him, though not at the expense of other players, of course. He's beloved here, so I hope he doesn't take the money (the Yankees, the Dodgers and the Angels will all offer more during the offseason) and run.
--I have a very reliable source who says that Ellsbury is such a jerk that he will, in fact, take the money and run. Of course, if someone offered me millions more than I'm making now, I might, as well. Who wouldn't?
--But this very reliable source is firm on the fact that he is a very big jerk, and is known for being so.
--It was nice to hear the applause that Lackey got when he left the game. Last year and a couple of weeks ago, all of those cheers were very loud boos. Well, when his name was spoken, anyway, since of course he wasn't on the field when he cashed his checks totaling about $16,000,000.
--I'm closer to California than Stephen Drew was to second base when he turned the two late-inning double plays tonight. But we'll take 'em.
--Next year, when the abomination of the instant replay starts, you won't see those proximity plays anymore.
--The Rays pitching and defense are tired. Moore and Price usually manhandle and shackle the Sox.
--Breslow continues to impress during his interviews, which is not normally where players shine. But this Ivy-League educated guy is yet to give a cheap or cliche answer to any question. He must've missed Bull Durham.
--Rays' manager Joe Maddon said after the game that he looks forward to Game 5 at Fenway. And he sounded like he meant it. Gotta respect that. (And let's hope he's of false hope.)
--A shout out to my friend Chris, who was at Fenway during Game Two of this 2013 Division Series.
--I've never seen the Sox run the bases as well as they have the past two games. You expect Ellsbury to score from first on a double, but not on a hard-hit ball to left field at Fenway. And Gomes scoring from second on an infield hit last night by Stephen Drew? That's right out of Major League. (Literally. Remember Jake's bunt?) Unbelievable. The Sox I started watching in the mid- to late-80s were the exact opposite of this, barely-fit sluggers who clogged the basepaths and didn't hustle. (For the most part. Ellis Burks and a couple of second basemen were the exceptions.)
--I have to admit that I worried when Breslow came in, and was loudly critical of Farrell for bringing in Tazawa. But what did I know? (Except that Tazawa was brutally bad in September, and that double play perhaps saved the game right there.)
--I thought Breslow should've started the eighth, and bring in Uehara for a four- or five-out save, if necessary. Breslow hadn't thrown many pitches at all, because of the double-play, and because the Rays swung early against him. Tazawa worries me. A lot.
--I thought starting Ross was a mistake, too. But he hits a double, and scores a run, and there's only one base stolen against him. So what do I know?
--Here's to hoping for a Game Three win for the Sox, and for a Series win by the A's over the Tigers. Is that asking too much?
--Let's not celebrate yet. The third win is always the hardest, or so the players say. Five teams have won the first two Division Series games and not the series.
--Each of the three double plays ended an inning, and none was more important than Tazawa's. He's this bullpen's weakest link. Out of the really important pitchers, anyway.
--Breslow continues to amaze, but I still hope Buchholz goes into the eighth inning next time.
--It is not as easy as Uehara makes it look.
--Speaking of which: Uehara threw 11 pitches. All strikes.
--The most important stat of the night: Not Ortiz's two homers. Not Pedroia's three RBIs. It's Ellsbury's three hits and three runs scored. He is the oil that lubricates this offense and keeps it running smoothly. If he's not on base, and stealing bases, and creating errors, and taking the pitcher's mind off the other batters, then Pedroia doesn't drive in three because there's nobody to drive in. As Ellsbury goes, so does the offense.
--Speaking of which: I've not been an Ellsbury fan the last couple of years, since he exploded on the scene in 2007, because of his many injuries and days on the DL, and his fragility and reluctance to play unless he's 100%. (Which no ballplayer ever is.) But I'm a fan this year. The Sox need to resign him, though not at the expense of other players, of course. He's beloved here, so I hope he doesn't take the money (the Yankees, the Dodgers and the Angels will all offer more during the offseason) and run.
--I have a very reliable source who says that Ellsbury is such a jerk that he will, in fact, take the money and run. Of course, if someone offered me millions more than I'm making now, I might, as well. Who wouldn't?
--But this very reliable source is firm on the fact that he is a very big jerk, and is known for being so.
--It was nice to hear the applause that Lackey got when he left the game. Last year and a couple of weeks ago, all of those cheers were very loud boos. Well, when his name was spoken, anyway, since of course he wasn't on the field when he cashed his checks totaling about $16,000,000.
--I'm closer to California than Stephen Drew was to second base when he turned the two late-inning double plays tonight. But we'll take 'em.
--Next year, when the abomination of the instant replay starts, you won't see those proximity plays anymore.
--The Rays pitching and defense are tired. Moore and Price usually manhandle and shackle the Sox.
--Breslow continues to impress during his interviews, which is not normally where players shine. But this Ivy-League educated guy is yet to give a cheap or cliche answer to any question. He must've missed Bull Durham.
--Rays' manager Joe Maddon said after the game that he looks forward to Game 5 at Fenway. And he sounded like he meant it. Gotta respect that. (And let's hope he's of false hope.)
--A shout out to my friend Chris, who was at Fenway during Game Two of this 2013 Division Series.
--I've never seen the Sox run the bases as well as they have the past two games. You expect Ellsbury to score from first on a double, but not on a hard-hit ball to left field at Fenway. And Gomes scoring from second on an infield hit last night by Stephen Drew? That's right out of Major League. (Literally. Remember Jake's bunt?) Unbelievable. The Sox I started watching in the mid- to late-80s were the exact opposite of this, barely-fit sluggers who clogged the basepaths and didn't hustle. (For the most part. Ellis Burks and a couple of second basemen were the exceptions.)
--I have to admit that I worried when Breslow came in, and was loudly critical of Farrell for bringing in Tazawa. But what did I know? (Except that Tazawa was brutally bad in September, and that double play perhaps saved the game right there.)
--I thought Breslow should've started the eighth, and bring in Uehara for a four- or five-out save, if necessary. Breslow hadn't thrown many pitches at all, because of the double-play, and because the Rays swung early against him. Tazawa worries me. A lot.
--I thought starting Ross was a mistake, too. But he hits a double, and scores a run, and there's only one base stolen against him. So what do I know?
--Here's to hoping for a Game Three win for the Sox, and for a Series win by the A's over the Tigers. Is that asking too much?
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